27: Marcel de Vries : Test Automation with CodedUI – TestTalks

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Test Automation with CodedUI

Do you need to automate both browser-based and window- based applications? Not sure which tool to use? I think one of the most overlooked tools for test automation is Microsoft CodedUI.

In this episode Marcel de Vries, author of the PluralSight Course Test Automation with CodedUI, will help you discover all the reasons why CodedUI might be the perfect tool for you to use in the creation of your automation awesomeness.

Marcel de Vries


Marcel spends most of his time helping organizations build Enterprise Applications and implementing Application Lifecycle Management (ALM) practices and tooling. Marcel works for a new startup company called Xpirit that provides premium consulting services on ALM, Cloud, enterprise mobility and Security. His job title there is Chief Technical Manager (CTO).

As CTO Marcel spends most of his time looking at how new emerging technologies can help organizations build better quality software and do this is a more productive way. Marcel has a passion for learning new technologies and teaching the things he learned on the way when applying technology to solve business problems. Marcel works as a consultant in the field of Application Lifecycle Management, Cloud application architectures and Cross platform Enterprise Mobile app development.

Marcel writes for websites and magazines like: MSDN, The Architecture journal and local magazines like SDN Magazine. Marcel is a frequent speaker at industry conferences like Microsoft TechDays, Visual Studio Live!, Microsoft Tech Ed and local user group events.

Marcel also spends a lot of time teaching topics like Visual Studio ALM, Windows Workflow Foundation, Xamarin Mobile app development and Web development.

In his spare time he is also an authors of online courses at Pluralsight. Marcel is awarded by Microsoft the Microsoft ALM MVP award and is also a Microsoft Regional Director.

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  • CodedUI is Microsoft test technology for test automation for the window platform.
  • You can automate WPF, Windows PresentationFoundation add-ins, Windows Forms application, Windows 32 applications. mobile applications and of course browser based automation in IE and Chrome and Firefox with Selenium plugin.
  • CodedUI is an API that you can program against using Visual Studio and languages like Visual Basic and C#
  • Currently you need Visual Studio Professional 2010 and above to use CodedUi
  • Use the page object pattern to create reusable test automation objects
  • Page object should be part of a developers definition of done
  • Once you understand the CodedUI API it is really easy to use to create automated tests
  • Try to avoid UI test as much as possible
  • How to handle pesky managers that insist on created all automated test as UI tests only
  • When writing your test code make sure to follow the same development principles like single responsibility.
  • And  much, much more!


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  1. Thank you Joe! This is great information! I happy to hear others saying that UI tests should be limited and to focus more at Unit and Service layer(api level)!

  2. This sounds like an interesting mix of proprietary tech mixed with open source. Nice to have a speaker admit the shortfalls (Record and playback) while giving “best” practices options.

  3. I enjoyed the show. If there’s a better way to do test automation, I personally think it’s good to let the IT team for the various companies know at first hand.

  4. Thanks for the valuable information. I was under the impression that qtp/Uft is only capable of automating Web and windows based application…

  5. Thanks Joe, I really enjoyed the podcast! I also recently watched your basics of API testing with HP UFT through my employer which I found a very good primer.

    Keep up the good work!

  6. This is the first time I listen to TestTalks podcast. (and also CodedUI from Microsoft)

    I am going to check on the past episodes too. Great content Master Joe. ^ ^

    Wow! the universe of automation testing is bigger than I thought.

  7. Thank you Marcel and Joe.
    I think that the core concepts mentioned in this cast (as well as
    previous casts), the automated test pyramid and page objects, should be as well incorporated into the QA narrative as SOLID is for software development.
    I wish there could be some elaboration about the edge CodedUI might have over Selenium in the web domain (is such exists).

    Keep up the good work!

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