In this episode, we’ll be test talking with Dave Cadwallader, a senior engineering manager in automation infrastructure, about a fleet of proven, open-source test automation tools developed by WalmartLabs that can help you succeed with automation.
Get ready to discover lessons learned about building and maintaining code and infrastructure that support massive- scale testing at Walmart, as well as tips for working with front end web development teams on making them successful.
About David Cadwallader
Dave Cadwallader is currently a senior engineering manager of automation infrastructure at Walmart eCommerce. His goal is to help teams automate the tedious elements of testing, so that we can focus on the fun stuff and catch bugs sooner.
Dave is also a co-creator of the open source tool TestArmada. TestArmada is a fleet of testing tools for making cross-browser, end-to-end testing fast, user-friendly, and valuable at scale across large teams, without those annoying false positives.
Quotes & Insights from this Test Talk
- Basically, a few of my colleagues and I took it upon ourselves to do a little weekend hackathon projects and try to put together some automation for testing checkout across multiple browsers, and we made some good progress, and then we just gained traction from there. Eventually, that led to me having my own team building a whole organization around test automation, and then starting to roll that out into multiple parts of the Walmart ecosystem. Now, it’s actually a part of our continuous delivery pipeline. It’s a mandatory part of what we do every day.
- For the managers and the VP level persona, we really pitched this idea of continuous delivery. At the time, when we started this effort, Walmart had release cycles that would sometimes be 1 month apart, 2 months apart, and whenever we needed to do a release, there was just always a massive amount of stress, and coordination, and getting everybody on to this consolidated release train where we had to have people staying up till 4 in the morning doing a test cycle during off hours when it was less likely to affect customers, deploy something.
- When we first started rerunning failed tests multiple times before reporting their failure you should understand that when we first implemented this, we felt shamed. We felt ashamed of ourselves. This is something that as an engineer, you don’t want non-determinism. You don’t want errors that you feel like you can’t control, and we spent months really trying to pin down all of the different sources of flaky behavior in Selenium, and we talked to Sauce Labs about it. We talked with people in the community, and it was just a game of whack-a-mole, right?
- It’s super important for us to not have false positives is because we have shifted to relying on test automation as hard gates as we call them for everything from deployments to pull requests, right? We believe firmly in this shift-left or as we like to call it, “Close the barn door before the horse bolts.” We run a cross-browser functional test suite of the entire smoke test suite for an application using Sauce Labs, using TestArmada on every single pull request.
- I think my one piece of advice would be as developers, it’s very tempting for us to think about writing our tests from a developer’s point of view and thinking about, “Can I test with everything that’s going on under the hood? Can I test every technical aspect of my page?” Sometimes, what we’ve seen is that this really gets test writers and developers tripped up in this state of, “I’m trying to test something really complicated, and I can’t wrap my head around it,” and so what we really just try to steer everybody towards is test things that a user would test. Test things from the perspective of a user of the website.
Connect with David Cadwallader
- Twitter: @geek_dave
- Blog: WalmartLabs
- Company: WalmartLabs
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Test armada is a great tool, we have been using it at Godaddy for over a year and it one of those strange tools that live upto its promise of reliability and parallelism. Thanks Dave for your efforts and this podcast.
I would like to point out one thing that was discussed during podcast ‘test pyramid’ and how it is ok to have a hour glass shape. Test pyramid talks about E2E and integration tests and how they should be minimal, while Dave argues for 100% functional test coverage. All the tests that he mentioned for PRs, for build validation etc are all functional tests because they are using mocks, they are not E2E tests which test pyramid would like to minimize.
E2E tests are hard/bad, necessary evil and they have to minimal, otherwise we would be bogged down with flakiness. I just don’t want folks to misunderstand what he meant and it would be nice if he clarifies it as well.
Thanks Satyajit for pointing that out! Also good to know that folks outside of Walmart are using the framework.